Myra I hope I didn't sound like I thought you were grandstanding or anything. I've really enjoyed everyone's comments about what they've been faced with or how they approach all these issues. We do all approach parenting differently, but that's why a discussion like this is great. It's about sharing ideas, not about judging. I think too much and doubt myself too much, and I'm trying so hard to do things differently to my upbringing that sometimes I can't see the wood for the trees. What you said makes perfect sense and I think we're doing that anyway, I just hadn't realised. For instance we use the tv news as an opportunity to talk about all sorts of topics, good and bad, but to help raise their awareness of world, human and environmental issues. We talk about the way people treat each other already, so I like the idea of incorporating the man/woman boy/girl type relationships too. It's a really great way of approaching this. Thank you.