regarding Cassie's new actions video

[farabee]

Cassie,....I just purchased and viewed your video on actions. Very well done. What's the diff in saving for putting on the web as you did and CS4 "command" saving for the web?

I'm not talking about the technicalities of doing either, just the end results....if you change the size from 3600 to 700 when you "save for web"...will that get the same results as your method? Does that make sense?

Thanks. -L

[1gr8muggle]

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Do you mean will the result be the same if you don't resize your image before doing a File > Save for Web?

In other words, are you wondering the difference between:

a.) Having a layered 3600x3600 image and going to File > Save for Web

or

b.) Having a flattened 700x700 image and going to File > Save As . . .

[Jen D]

Good question... no idea but very interested in what Cassie says

[farabee]

It's a hard to phrase the question!
What will be the difference in the end result if I take a 3600x3600 and "save for web" in Photoshop versus your 3600x3600, resized, flattened, etc.

My ready to post file as compared to your ready to post....will the result be the same/similar enough?

I guess it seems easy to just go to File>save for web, enter 700, click save, and done than to go through your process. I'm not critical of your process, just wonder if I will get the same results via PS.

Am I phrasing the question better or are you still in the dark? ;-)

[hguenthe]

To me it sounds like she is asking whether it is the same to:

1) resize image, flatten image, save as

and

2) save for web & do the resize in that dialogue's image size section at the same time

Which I would love to know as well as I use method 2 to do all my saving for web galleries and hadn't thought to wonder if it had the same results.

[farabee]

Yes, yes......that's what I'm saying! Thanks so much for helping me clarify that!

[anke]

hmmm, i always use the second method also, now I am wondering....

[kdif]

I was taught that you resize first, i.e. change resolution to 72, then go to save for web. That's how I do it. Curious to see which is better.

[1gr8muggle]

Well, I always do it the first way, so I just tried it the second way.

When I try to do a File > Save for Web & Devices in CS4, I get this error message. I tried it with an original layered file and with a flattened 3600x3600 file. I got the error both times.

Seeing as how I don't like "out of memory" errors, I cancelled. If you don't get this error, I say try one each way and then check the file size and compare the quality of each. Not much help, am I? LOL

ETA: I checked the CS4 suggestions for saving for web, and their sample image is going from 158K to 29.6K. That 158K is a far cry from a flattened 12x12" page. My 12x12 was 37.1M.

Honestly, I only do the "Save for Web & Devices" option when I'm trying to keep the file size under a target number for galleries that require that. Since DD doesn't have that restriction, I just do the steps outlined in the Getting Started link.

[THAT-GIRL]

I did "Save for the web and devises" before, but I discovered that it works the same if you just resize in the: Image>Image size> and then resize only resolution to 72 pix. it's so mach faster too, just make sure if you need it for printing live a copy at 300 pix. resolution.

[hguenthe]

Originally Posted by 1gr8muggle

Seeing as how I don't like "out of memory" errors, I cancelled. If you don't get this error, I say try one each way and then check the file size and compare the quality of each. Not much help, am I? LOL

LOL... so the other day with the other error, you just ignore it but this one you pay attention to? I canceled whenever I got the error about transparency & marching ants but never canceled this one. Guess I am a bit of a rebel after all.

[farabee]

LOL...talk about a rebel....me, too! I have gotten that error since day 1 and always ignore. You don't live on the edge at all? ;-) As the conversation went on, I thought I should just try both and see what size I came up with. Guess I will tomorrow. Too tired tonight. Thanks, Cassie and all the rest of you gals! -L

[farabee]

FWIW - Finally got "untired" enough to run a comparison. On both layouts that I saved for email or gallery, the "save for web and other devices" in CS4 made the file smaller.

I know your method is tried and true, Cassie, and I'm certainly not knocking it. As I watched your video on "saving for the web," I did wonder if I had been doing something wrong in using the built in PS "save for web."

Numbers in both cases were (PS - Cassie) 76 kb - 168 kb; 472 kb - 720 kb.

If someone else has time to compare, it would be interesting to see their results?
I also discovered when opening both files in Preview that the PS method displays a larger size while the 700 file is tiny, thumbnail size. ??? I wonder what happens behind the scenes with PS method?

So....just my rambling. Probably not a big deal and not worth anything.... -L

[1gr8muggle]

Originally Posted by farabee

I also discovered when opening both files in Preview that the PS method displays a larger size while the 700 file is tiny, thumbnail size. ??? I wonder what happens behind the scenes with PS method?

So....just my rambling. Probably not a big deal and not worth anything.... -L

If both files are 700x700, they would open the same in Preview. Maybe you need to click "View Full Size" or something.

But, you're right about the methods. There are many ways to skin a cat, as they say.

[KerryMac]

Someone should write a book titled "1001 Ways to do the Same Dang Thing in Photoshop" cuz that's the truth!
There are so very many ways to get to the same end. I think you should just choose which one goes with the way your brain works best
BTW I don't ever change the resolution before re-sizing for web. I just change the pixel dimensions. One less step for me.

[farabee]

There you go....another way of doing it. ;-)

This might explain the difference in viewing size, Cassie.Picture 1.jpg

Picture 2.jpg